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Could there be way to disable Reverse? or the auto eco shift down?

Discussion in 'Bamboo GT' started by Temblor, Apr 1, 2017.

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  1. Temblor

    Temblor Member

    So my only suggestion to evolve, is to allow customers ability to completely disable reverse. It is not worth the possibility of remote loosing temporary connection and a person pressing button too many times and have board suddenly throw into hard reverse. Plus I will never use reverse.
    They NEVER should have put the reverse on a button which involves shifting the forward gears!

    2nd suggestion is to disable the mandatory shift to ECO mode when battery at 40%.. these two features make riding the board UN-enjoyable.. at speeds above 10-12 MPH especially after you take one spill because of these ill reasoned design flaws.

    These are my only two beefs! Otherwise a stellar board! I am 250lb rider with a backpack and I got 20 miles on Bamboo GT with Street wheels!
    But PLEASE allow us a way to disable reverse and remove mandatory ECO down shift. Both of these are dangerous ideas.. never should have been implemented.. and they take away from the board, to be fully enjoyable.
    Or does anyone else know a way to disable reverse?
    Thanks.
     
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  2. 0raa

    0raa Member

    Support.
     
  3. wiztecy

    wiztecy Member

    Best suggestion is to fix the remote / board dropout and connectivity issue. Make the communication fail-safe. As for the reverse, for some reason they keep it in there for a 'cool - factor' and for the Evolve competitions they support. I have other boards with reverse but never use them. The board is light enough to move with your foot or hands. I also don't care about doing 180 slides, but happy for those who enjoy that and all for them having fun. As for having them change something like that, such as a reverse disable or any change by the user, good luck don't hold your breath! Since the first update to the remote back in November, there hasn't been any other design change. I have other boards that have reverse, but also have a solid 2.4 Ghz RC communication component, which is essential on an electric skateboard. The RC remote has been tested, refined and tested. Evolve went for pretty looks instead dropping money and focus in the LCD screen that is unusable and bleeds out in the daylight. Only time it works is when the sun sets or at night. I love simple remotes that are solid, and the RC remote I run on my other boards cost $60 retail to replace if something breaks by accident. But I haven't broke any of the two I have yet. My Evolve remote did break its USB charge connector, which again was a flaw since they didn't support the USB mini charge connector in the remote by the plastic molding nor any epoxy to support it, instead they relied on the solder connections that are small, stuck to a PCB board which solder is easily flaked and popped off when you put any type of leverage on it.

    As for a person who had the board drop into reverse while moving forward as well as other artifacts from the dropout syndrome, I suggest to be very careful when you try to shift below FAST mode. Also be very aware how your board performs and where it acts up, for those who live in a area with certain types of RF signals that affect the board. If you see the remote disconnect / give dashes on the battery level and other indications known to this, by all means stop, get off the board, and power the remote and board down. Then do the repair process again. Do a quick bench test to ensure you have 100% adequate communication back up again, and if you do ride off being cautious until you feel confident you're out of the RF signal area that bumped your communication offline. Also note the area this happened, usually signal / towers with a unique signature/wavelength/power or static to that area. They can come and go, but just be aware it could do the same thing the next time you pass within that area.
     
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  4. stowy

    stowy Member

    I'd like to up-vote this too. I got my evolve bamboo GT street set up last Saturday, and have been stoked with it so far, the power is amazing, the battery life and range is amazing, and it's lots of fun.

    I was unaware of the dropout issues (I had heard that there could be dead spots where the remote wouldn't work), in that I didn't know how they manifested. That is until this morning.

    I was riding to work along a residential street, I turned a corner and my board was in 'Fast' mode, I have been having a habit of shifting down to ECO mode for accelerating as I haven't gotten used to the power of fast mode for acceleration yet. When I looked down at the remote after pressing downshift, the remote still said fast mode however. I also noticed that there was no battery readout. I have seen this before a few times and thought it was just the battery transmission was flakey. However the accelerator was still working.

    So I pressed down shift a couple more times with no result. Then all of a sudden, my board stops suddenly and I'm thrown forward off the board, lucky it was a residential street with no cars and I wasn't going too fast, also I was wearing wrist guards and a helmet. Then I look at the remote and it says I'm in reverse mode. WTF?

    Seems like, the remote was disconnected when I tried to downshift. Then, when it reconnected, it sent through 3 downshifts in quick succession, taking me from fast mode to reverse mode, while I was travelling forward at 5-10 miles/hour. This is very bad, and extremely dangerous.

    Needless to say I was pretty shaken up. The wristguards took most of the punishment, thankfully, but i got a pretty nasty jolt through my left (front facing) shoulder, I don't think anything is broken but it hurts to raise my arm so I have either torn, bruised or badly strained a tendon / ligament in my shoulder. I hope it's only bruising. This is an hour later and it feels very weak, so not great.

    Riding the rest of the way to work I was very cautious and wasn't sure if I could trust the board to not stop suddenly on me again. Makes you feel pretty unsafe to travel at 15-20 miles an hour if the board could suddenly stop on you at any moment.

    I would strongly ask Evolve to address this issue. An option to disable reverse mode for people like me that are doing longer rides in only one direction would be a minimum ask. Fair enough if you want to enable it for trick riding, etc.

    Personally I wonder why there needs to be a gear option for reverse mode? Why not do what boosted does, and start reversing using the brake if you have stopped travelling forward?

    I'd also loves some more tips (like that from wiztecy above) about safe ways to ride the board and avoid sudden stopping like what happened to me today.
     
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  5. rod_r

    rod_r Member

    Hi. I have a bamboo GT as well, so know what it's like to not have complete faith in your remote / board. What people might not know, but it has been written about, is that the screen is fed information from the board on a different channel, [ or whatever it's called ] than the one which is controlling the board from the remote. That means the remote can be working properly, but the screen can be lagging. You cannot trust the screen while the no connection dashes are visible. If you press a button to change mode, and your throttle is still working, even though the screen does not show a change in mode, you have to assume you are already in the new mode.
     
  6. Rhideras

    Rhideras Member

    I was doing a range test on my board just trying to see how far I can go on a charge and I was merging to some traffic so I kicked it into fast mode and was going about 20mph my battery was about 34% when I went to get out of traffic after the bridge and back into the bike lane I wentered to slow down and the brakes locked up in stage 3 even tho I was barely touching the brakes. The only thing I can figure is there was a power interrupt between the board and the controller that put the brakes full on when it auto dropped to eco because of the power level.
    Why not make it so the brakes come on in levels like flick up once lvl 1, twice lvl 2, and so on. Also increase the physical resistance on the brakes so it is harder to press the brakes a simple stronger spring would suffice it would also help when riding with gloves.
    I was rideing carbon gt street set up when I crashed and also can't lift my arm because my shoulder is jacked but it is getting better.
     
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