Hey guys, I have a question. This question actually not only applies to BGT, but also to CGT. I already know it's possible to get more speed out of our GT boards, but the question is HOW? In Evolve's new video with their custom GT board racing a go-kart, you can clearly see that they're going much faster than other boards. Evolve stated that their board goes as fast as 70km/h. They're using the default 83mm 76a Evolve wheels and the gear ratio seems to be untouched. They say they have a customized controller and battery settings. Anyone have tried messing with the controller? I don't need to "cruise" around at 70km/h as it would put stress on the battery and motors and I guess the lifespan of the battery and components would be greatly reduced. On the roads I ride on, there's a speed limit of 50km/h. The drivers are always getting very impatient when somebody is going slower than the speed limit. So I would really like to push at least those 50km per hour out of it. I really can understand why Evolve doesn't want to allow anyone to go faster, 38km/h is way too much for a lot of riders here who can't even handle the board and when they crash in ECO mode, they keep blaming the remote controller for it (unless it's really a firmware issue, I heard sudden reverse without pushing a button is a thing again). However, Evolve could allow at least a few of us (those, who can handle the speed) to squeeze a little bit more out of our boards. Thanks for reading, I am really looking forward to your replies!
I'm sorry, but some of these GT boards are DEFECTIVE. When a board accelerates in full GT mode when you're not touching trigger to go faster as a user, something is clearly wrong with the board! When your board keeps going full speed, 24mph, and you have the trigger in neutral and the board isn't shutting down, something is wrong with the board. When your board fails to brake coming into a busy intersection, something is wrong with the board. When you get your GT back from Evolve service and you're riding in ECO mode, not touching anything but keeping your finger steady and the board stops dead in its tracks / goes into reverse whlle going 7+mph, something is SEROUSLY wrong with the board. So before you go saying people are crashing in ECO mode as if their idiots, think again. Its uncool to have a board released that has so many faults!!! I wouldn't go blaming people crashing in ECO mode until you've had your own taste of pavement from a defective GT. Before Evolve goes spouting out about how fast their boards are, then need to do ONE thing first. FIRST make it SAFE for everyone and get the FRICKEN bugs worked out of it! Do some RF testing and tuning on your boards before shipping them.
I do agree there may be issues with some of the boards from factory and signal reliability issues in certain conditions in general, which is not great. And it's a very valid and important point when talking about jacking up the speed an the stakes when it comes to safety, but there's plenty of discussion surrounding that in some other threads. So in here lets maybe try to talk more about what the top (safe?) speed should be on any given electric skateboard in general, providing perfect engineering and 100% reliability. Or at the speeds we're talking now is it best to assume you'll never get 100% reliability, in which case what's the best scenario? I'm pretty sure the video in questions is a proof of concept on off promotional vid. Vid in question: I highly doubt any retail boards will be manufactured to that spec, but who knows? Then again, they do have a very cool annual race event in France, the Evolve World Cup, and here in the UK we're planning on trying to host regular racing events on high quality tracks near London from this spring onwards. So even if only for the sake of dedicated track racing as opposed to battling on the open road with cars, what speeds and personal safety precautions would you recommend to stay safe? Personally I really wouldn't want to go much faster than the current top speeds when dealing with roadside traffic purely because of the nature of hazards that may require you to brake harshly. Eg. hitting a rock, rabbit, fox, football, kid running into the street (any other roadworth obstacle), which could be a mess as much higher speeds and already cause pretty bad damage as is, especially if not wearing adequate safety gear. On the track however....it's probably assumed you'll take some tumbles as everyone is pushing themselves to the limit. So what extra safety gear would you need to feel comfortable to go that fast. Would you even risk it for a race? Is 50km/h (31mph) too much or not enough? If you could mod the controller or firmware to get that speed, would you?
Hey axle you wanna pull ya head in wat are you trying to say buddy that i cant handle the board who are you to say that you dont even no me nore were you even there i dont like the fact you wanna talk like im some sort off girl you would have a hole diferent think about that if you met me so how about next time your typeing away on ya keyboard you have a little think about wat your saying and how others would see it.
That is the reason why I put the "unless it's a firmware issue" thing right after I said that and I was simply pointing to a small number of people on Facebook page "Evolve skateboard owners" who can't handle the sensitivity. I should've made it more obvious. I am not making fun of people who have real problems with their boards and I don't want people discussing this matter here. As for Alex's reply, I happen to be one of the lucky ones who never had any problem with their board (except for the motor clicking noise...). I never had connectivity issues and my remote never applied reverse on it's own. I have the old firmware with one-click reverse. (Edit: I still have a small issue, on some rare ocassions when riding and accelerating, one of the motors will not push. Resetting the trigger solves this problem.) Now as I said, if I could to change the top speed for every single board there is, I wouldn't do anything, I think evolve made a quite good decision on that, since it's fast enough for most people and still reasonably safe compared to higher speeds. If I had a chance to only change my top speed, I would set it to 50km/h. I always wear a helmet and I take safety quite seriously. Since I used to do downhill longboarding with normal, non-electric longboard, I am quite used to this kind of speeds. If I wanted to really push the limits on the track, which I don't want to, I would probably get every piece of protective gear I'd find. There may be technical failure or I might get a speed wobble, who knows. Once again sorry to the people who have real problems with their boards, I was just misunderstood.
I think the issue with increasing the top speed too much is the police wont carry on turning a blind eye if ya whizzing along at 50mph!! Also no matter how good you are the unexpected can happen at any time. Even just a cat running in front has the potential to send you flying. If you go above 30mph the chances of serious injury increase dramatically.
I wouldn't even think about going 50mph, that's crazy. As I said, max I would go is 31mph or 50km/h. Even at 24mph, I put myself into a big risk of injury but I really know where I can go that fast and where I definitely can't.
I got passed by a guy on a bike once ...then we came to a hill and i went back passed and never saw him again ! Love me my GTX grunt
It is unfortunate thats this topic went of subject. The question was "How to increase speed of a GT through firmware or parameters on remote"
Software in the board takes care of the speed, remote just sends the trigger setting and gets the ESC and BATT stats back. You can change the gears to make it go faster and there are other ways.. But remind yourself these video's are on a race track and you don't have 1000 people around you and most of them use something in the 2.4Ghz range (Bluetooth, Wifi, Microwave, etc) and they interfere with the connection. Doing stuff like that in the city with an Evolve is a fast way to get hospitalized.
@Stefan what are these "other ways" for those who understand the risk and also have experienced evolve defects but still want to know how to get more speed? Cheers
There is a ARM MCU on the board that controls the ESC that most likely is talking to a PWM pin. You could a. replace the software in the MCU but that's scary because you need to jtag onto the pins I think. Replace the MCU but still need to make your own firmware. Use a MCU in between and generate your own PWM. And/or replace the entire controller with a receiver and 2 ESC's. Also you need to replace the battery because as is you are killing it already if you try and climb any hills or drive on grass and stuff.. It's already trying to use more AMPS the battery can deliver so why make it worse. If you wanna go fast, get a Bajaboard.
Awsome @Stefan May be someone will take on the project . You have such a lot of useful info though! Thanks again mate! Cheers
